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2003.02.14 18:35
Re: Larry Poons
whose mind is it anyway?
I don't think it's so much a separation of the mind from the senses after the age of four, rather the replacement of one's own way of thinking with the thinking of someone else after the age of four.

2003.02.15 10:55
Re: bankruptcy exhaustion and closure
I'm [not] confused.
What's the definitive difference between something that is art and something that resembles art?
Does art that is art not resemble art as well?
If there is something that isn't art but resembles art, then what is it exactly?

2003.02.15 12:39
Re: bankruptcy exhaustion and closure
So, something that isn't art but resembles art is likely either craft, bad art, experimental work, student work, and/or conceptual work?
Since you clearly delineate the place(s) where something that isn't art but resembles art (most likely) resides, do you have any suggestions where art that is art (most likely) resides.
You speak of "solid boundaries to respond to," and that these are imperative for an avant-garde to exist, but what if an avant-garde advocated "liquid" boundaries additional to the solid boundaries?

2003.02.15 12:42
Re: bankruptcy exhaustion and closure
What value is there in basing judgment on a supposition (i.e., what will be thought a hundred years from now) that the outcome of which is completely unknown.
Haven't you yourself just based your thinking on a "fluid" boundary? Thus, to use your own qualifications, what you suggest about postmodern art being very potentially mediocre is itself very potentially mediocre.
Everything you just wrote is itself a response to an "unknown value." So, which are you, the true artist or the divine fool? Moreover, isn't an ingenuine pretender the same as a non-pretender, thus the real thing?

2003.02.15 22:01
some new rules?
chronosomatics   00 : The Timepiece of Humanity   01 : an interpretive method that deals with the interrelationship between chronological or historical sequence and consecutive transverse sections of the human body   02 : a metaphorical link between specific points in time with specific points on or in the human body   03 : a theory whereby the morphology and physiology of the human body is seen as representative of the complete continuum of human existence   04 : the calendar incarnate
The main reason why I don't feel bankrupt, exhausted or closed.

2003.02.16 12:19
Re: bankruptcy exhaustion and closure
I was simply pointing out that to "try and imagine what people will believe or understand about it in a hundred years" was the same as "responding to fluid boundaries." You were being critical of an avant garde responding to fluid boundaries, yet your own argument was itself based on responding to a fluid boundary. It was also you who equated responding to a fluid boundary with responding to an unknown. From my perspective, all this pointed to flaws within your internal logic. I also just looked up 'ingenuine' in the dictionary and did not find the word. I took it to mean non-genuine, thus a non-genuine pretended, due to a sort-of double negative, turns out to be the real thing.
I raised the notion of liquid boundaries in addition to solid boundaries, and I was thinking specifically of how the virtual, as it is now-a-days manifest via the internet and cyberspace, is a liquid world in addition to the solid real world. The notion of solid bound and liquid bound realms is not relegated to a combination of the internet and the real, however, for your response is a perfect example of how the solid and the liquid (fluid) coexist, albeit, you yourself were not even aware of utilizing the 'boundaries' of both realms.
The nature of liquid/fluid boundaries appears to be a topic worth further hashing out.

2003.02.18 11:32
Re: bankruptcy exhaustion and closure
The first six chapters of The Timepiece of Humanity were written in 1995, before the word chronosomatics was even 'invented', and they represent the first attempt at explaining the 'theory,' specifically where the idea came from. It's really only the second step in the overall process, the first step was the compiling of almost 500 notes on the subject between October 1994 and June 1996. A seventh chapter, "Chronosomatically Contemplating the Navel" was published online in 1999.
[The following is being stated both glibbly and seriously. Take your pick even.]
Recently inspired by Barney's Cremaster Cycle, chronosomatics is now being treated as sculpture, or is it relief painting? Certainly not as performance, at least not yet. Or is that really all it is?
Is it fact or is it fiction? Right now that doesn't matter, at least not to me.
B, can you explain further how "the mind hardly needs the body for reference?"
trivia quiz: In what issue of October does the phrase "a timepiece of humanity" occur? When I read that phrase I said to myself, "That's the perfect title for that 'theory' I have.

2003.02.19 10:21
Re: bankruptcy exhaustion and closure
Chronosomatics has led me to investigate where the mind's "ability to imagine" comes from. I'm working with the proposition that the (mind's) imagination operates like corporal physiology, e.g., a/the fertile imagination operates like corporal fertility, a/the metabolic imagination operates in a dual creative/destructive manner, etc. Furthermore, there is also the chronosomatic proposition that the prevalence of specific operations of imagination (on a global scale) directly corresponds with the prevalence of specific physiologies within any specific slice of the body, where each corporal slice corresponds with a specific slice of time.

2003.02.21 15:47
Re: "Transavangaurdia"
Late last night, 20 February became Apostate Architecture Day.
The rest is [a hybrid] history.

2003.02.22 09:14
apostasy is only half the story
So now we have Barney elaborately reenacting the raising and lowering of testicles. Given the corporal territory, Barney no doubt plays a lot with the (chronosomatically defined?) fertile imagination. Greenaway also utilizes the fertile imagination, although much more assimilatingly and metabolically. Is Barney perhaps exhibiting /manifesting a pre-natal fertile imagination? Chronosomatically, that is indeed a possibility. Given the female body and it's role in embryonic development, the present 'plane of the present' slices through a female that is approximately five months pregnant. And given that around now is when a developing fetus reverses position from head up to head down, there might just be some developing testicles within the slice of our time, and maybe that's where Barney is chronosomatically (speaking).
latest chronosomatic note (yet to be numbered):
In terms of the present pregnancy within the female body, there may well be twins developing, one male and one female. Since the ultimate birth of the current pregnancy will correspond with a "second birth" (ref. Eliade), the notion of a forthcoming male/female pair of twins (rightly?) contrasts the primordial male/male (metabolic) twins of creation myths.

2003.02.23 11:25
Re: Cremaster Cycle
Is it true that Barney is next going to work on a "reality TV" project? American Immunity Idol, is it? Or Quasi-Quondam Bachelor Fearlessly Stripping In Absolutely Fabulous Drag? I know, Lights, Camera, Apostasy!
In the future, all reality will be recorded by a camera, because if it isn't captured by a camera, you can kiss that reality goodbye.

2003.02.23 16:22
succinct confession of doubt granted
You should read about the Christian saints whose feasts coincide with Apostate Architecture Day, 20 February.
Ss. Tyrannio, Zenobius and Other Martyrs (A.D. 304 and 310) It's the Other Martyrs that are most interesting. According the Eusebius' eyewitness account, the wild beasts that these martyrs were fed to couldn't come near them. Looked like Divine intervention. Eusebius said so. He is a good historian, and good writer, and author of the only original (architectural) description of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher that we today have. I believe him.
St. Sadoth, Bishop of Seleucia-Ctesiphon, Martyr (c. A.D. 342) Those early Christians in Persia were asked to give succinct confession of doubt as well.
St. Eleutherius, Bishop of Tournai (A.D. 532) All the records pertaining to his life burned in the great fire that destroyed Tournai Cathedral in 1092. Today they say you should doubt that he raised the Governor's daughter from the dead. Of course, the legend tells us the young girl died because Eleutherius, as young bishop, did not return her affections. "How do you mend a broken heart?" indeed. You gotta love this guy's name!
St. Eucherius, Bishop of Orleans (A.D. 743) A localized reenactment of the reluctant-Moses-syndrome.
St. Wulfric (A.D. 1154) " seems that it was for prophecy more than anything else that he was famous." I like the part about King Henry I and King Stephen being among Wulfric's visitors.
Bd. Elizabeth of Mantua, Virgin (A.D. 1468) "She is said to have prophesied her own death a year before it happened." "Extraordinary crowds attended her funeral."

2003.02.24 12:03
Re: Cremaster Cycle
Would it be fair then to compare Barney and his work to another artist and their work where the other artist did everything with their own hands, without assistance, without extra funding, and without media hype, yet the other artist is likewise extremely fertile in imagination, extremely tenacious, and also working on project(s) over long periods of time?
Hollywood has long been the exemplar of the fecund abilities and output of a production team. Note how it's the producers that pick up the Oscar when a film is named the best.
We celebrate an artist's unique vision and his/her ability to execute that vision. Yet we also (less explicitly) celebrate an artist's ability to be sold (i.e., the exchange of significant amounts of money). The irony comes in when in reality an artist that isn't sold will most likely never be celebrated for their unique vision and their ability to execute that vision.
As Mike Kelley inadvertently(?) points out in Foul Perfection, there are at least two active artworlds that make up ongoing art history—those that play by the 'club' rules and then those that are (either) heretics, apostates, revolutionaries, etc.
How much difference is there now-a-days between contemporary art history and the record of what art sold/sells well?

2003.02.26 12:01
Re cryptome hacked
Yesterday, 25 February, was (again) the anniversary of St. Ambrose breaking the silence about St. Helena finding the True Cross.
Cryptic inversionary reenactments maybe?
Is [casting] doubt the greatest terrorist weapon?
The calendar and the coincidences that occur within it make for an efficient mnemonic devise.

2003.02.26 13:56
Re: Cremaster Cycle
Where will they be hiding the NYC art collections during the next big war? Where is the next 'monument hysterique' going to be?
[House of] United Castration Nations, perhaps.
petroleum jelly police
shaved fringe benefits included in package
plus orificial vacations
[Charlie Finch obviously reads TALKBACK.]
The reincarnation of Crystal Vanish is Rita Novel.



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